Archive for Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Breuer becomes new Basehor mayor

David Breuer

David Breuer

March 20, 2012

Two more spots available

Two Basehor City Council seats remain to be filled during the council’s April 16 meeting, and the city is inviting residents to apply.

Applications are due at noon March 30. Forms are available for download below, or they can be picked up at Basehor City Hall.

During a Basehor City Council meeting free of the noise and conflict that have characterized its recent gatherings, David Breuer became Basehor’s new mayor Monday night.

Breuer, a longtime Basehor resident who has owned the local business K.C. Construction since 1977, had been a City Council member since 2009.

After he was sworn in as the new mayor, Breuer told the standing-room-only audience present that it was time for the city to move on from the turmoil that surrounded its recent recall elections.

“It’s certainly been a trying time,” Breuer said, “and certainly we need to get down to city business.”

Travis Miles, the only other council member who remained after two were recalled and one resigned earlier this month, began the meeting by moving to elect Breuer as the council’s new president, meaning he would immediately move into the mayoral seat.

Miles said he believed Breuer should serve in the position because he had served longer on the council, and he cited a history of public-service and leadership positions. Breuer served on the Basehor-Linwood school board from 1980 to 1988, was on a pension board for the Laborer’s Local Union 1290 of Kansas City, Kan., and was president of the Basehor Lions Club.

Breuer voted along with Miles to approve the motion.

Breuer’s first actions as mayor were to appoint two new council members: Dick Drennon, who oversees buildings and grounds for the Basehor-Linwood school district and also once served on the school board, and Vernon J. Fields, a member of the Basehor Planning Commission. He said the city had received six applications for the spots before its deadline of noon Friday to be considered for appointment Monday.

The council’s past several meetings, leading up to and following the city’s Feb. 28 recall election, had been marked by conflict and contention among audience members and, occasionally, members of the council. But the crowd Monday was largely quiet, with residents declining to speak even during the meeting’s designated public-comment period.

Breuer said after the meeting that he appreciated the evening’s calmer tenor.

“Our city is going to move forward,” he said.

With just more than a year left of the term Breuer will take over from recalled former Mayor Terry Hill, he said there quite a bit to get done.

“We’ve got a lot of issues that need to be addressed,” Breuer said. “A lot of tough issues.”

Both Drennon and Fields were appointed to fill council seats whose terms end in 2015, leaving two seats with terms ending in 2013 remaining to fill. Breuer plans to appoint members to fill those spots at the council’s April 16 meeting.

Among the tasks facing the new council will be to find a new city administrator to replace Mark Loughry, whose firing in September figured prominently in the recalls of Hill and former council members Dennis Mertz and Iris Dysart.

Breuer said he hopes the new group concentrates on equipping the city’s staff to move the community forward.

“I want to get the board to concentrating on developing sound and good policy,” he said.

For more on the two new Basehor City Council members, check basehorinfo.com later this week.

Comments

LR 2 years, 9 months ago

 Welcome and Congratulations to you, Mayor David Breuer!  
 Here's a quote from you during your 2009 election campaign >> “I’m in it for the overall good of the people of Basehor, and I’m looking at it long term,” he said. “We have to look ahead and see how our actions affect the future populations of the city.”  
 Here's hoping you're able to clean up the last administration's messes the right way, legally and morally, not ignoring them, that are contained in those 2010-2011+ legal documents (see the March 19 city council page at>> http://www.basehorinfo.com/news/2012/... plus see here for the files>>http://www.cityofbasehor.info/Files.php), while your new administration goes forward to other issues.        
 Otherwise, those "tough issues" you mention above, the kind of open abuse given towards former employees and hidden from the city councilmembers, can't go away on its own.  Those kinds of abuses and corruptions will continue to fester and affect future populations of the city.  You weren't able to address them then, but now you have the authority, with a new city council, to wipe the slate clean and start over--help former employees to heal by acknowledging the abuse against them that was done to hide the past corruption.  By doing that act of compassion and service, our City can also heal.
 If complete honesty, integrity, and full transparency are maintained from here on out, correcting the past the right way while going forward, you'll have the full support of the people in spite of us getting burned in the past.  We wish you well, Mayor!  (Bet you never thought you'd hear that title with your name back in 2009, right?) :-)))
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ProudOfOurCity 2 years, 9 months ago

“They come and they go,” Mertz said of claim notices.

This is a direct quote from Dennis Mertz at his Town Hall meeting on Feb. 19th. I don't see this comment listed on your website. Do claims against the City only have merit when Washington and his cronies want them to? What about the claim filed by Mark Loughry? I guess you think it has no merit because you and your group caused it to happen and now hope and pray that it goes away.

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basehordream 2 years, 9 months ago

why was the former police officer cory's claim discussed in executive session last night? are they trying to hurry up and pay him off and brush it under the rug?

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ProudOfOurCity 2 years, 9 months ago

How do you know what was or was not discussed in executive session? "they come and they go"

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 9 months ago

I hope they don't pay Cory. Sounds to me like he wanted to be babied and law enforcement isn't a field for babies. Police officers work very hard and deal with a lot of crap from a lot of people, I would assume they have to have pretty thick skin and he clearly doesn't. Thankfully he is no longer employed in this city. Nothing personal against him... but not everybody is cut out for every job! If you can't handle a supervisor raising his voice at you, what happens when a citizen does it? Can't sue them for being mean.

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

“…Sounds to me like he wanted to be babied and law enforcement isn't a field for babies…” “…I didn't state any facts, because I don't know any facts…” The key words here are “Sounds to me like…” and “…didn’t state any facts, because I don’t know any facts…” which means the choice has been made to either believe the hearsay of those who are in denial of what’s happening, or believe the manipulative lies of those who’ve become fellow travelers for the ongoing corruption and deception, instead of reading the hard-core, third-party evidence for yourself.
“…If you can't handle a supervisor raising his voice at you,…” So the Basehor police superiors can ignore the EEOC fed rules against abuse and retaliation? Sounds like a double standard here—maybe the supervisor raising his voice [actually the documents also mention physical assault] means that he’s having a temper tantrum and “sounding like he wanted to be babied” [since his son got in trouble with his own supervisor for dumping the dirt in the wrong place] without having a “thick skin” and maybe he's “not cut out for his job?” Work place bullying and abuse is unsactioned behavior by federal laws, whether it's targeted at a former city attorney, former HR clerk, or a former officer. Stop defending it.

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

Just like on the March 19th page, the above is a tacit admission of a hostile work environment. Just like was the case with the former city attorney and the former HR clerk. Again, why defend corruption unless you're admitting you're a part of it?

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ProudOfOurCity 2 years, 9 months ago

LR: Why don't you tell us why you defend the corruption on the part of Box, Dysart and Mertz when they fired Loughry? Why do you keep avoiding that issue? Looks to me like your problem is that you have lost your control over city council with Dysart and Mertz gone. Maybe a new hobby?????

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

“Why don't you tell us why you defend the corruption on the part of Box, Dysart and Mertz when they fired Loughry?” A.) We’re defending WHY the former city councilmembers fired Loughry in the first place, because it was already proven with hard-core, third-party evidence by the former city attorney’s files and the audit, B.) The people DID choose to believe the former city councilmembers’ audit AND former city attorney’s evidence and recalled Mayor Hill themselves, and C.) Why do you keep focusing on diversionary issues other than the hard-core, third-party evidence of Hill and Loughry’s guilt?
Unfortunately, the guilt and corruption may not end just there because the victims keep getting abused, again and again by denying their existence, and the lingering remnants of that same corruption keeps getting minimized, whitewashed, and twisted to appear it never existed and that somebody imagined it.
Abuse and corruption thrive in a climate of secrecy. And fear of (possibly more?) exposure is driving all the diversionary comments on this forum!

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johninbasehor 2 years, 9 months ago

Was it a hostile work environment when Mertz was video tapeing police officers on the job? Someone needs to look into the fact that the previous city council members that fired Loughry were acting outside the protection of state law when they went against the advice of their own city attorney, firing Loughry without a hearing and not paying him off immediately as stated in his employment contract. Why should the taxpayers have to pay off this 1/2 million dollar lawsuit when it was obviously brought about by the negligence and hard headedness of the previous council members, thus causing them to be personally liable for these expenses?

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

It's still legal to video tape police officers doing their job while on duty, otherwise cite the law you're presupposing. They have no expectation of privacy while performing their routine duties. And now you're pitting the former city attorney against the current city attorney, because the former city attorney gave no such legal advice in 2010, based on his submitted legal documents for the same circumstance. Where's the current city attorney's documentation that everybody can read for themselves, complete with emails, etc., rather than us just taking your word for it or the newspaper reporter's word for it, because the former city attorney submitted all his documents for public view in 2010, and they're just now being revealed to the City residents in 2012? The games includes an "authority figure" to lie to the public to make the "dirty deeds" go away, but this time the "authority figures" Hill/Loughry and those who support them are tainted. Only hard-core, third-party evidence can be believed now because they lack credibility and keep defending the past corruption even on this forum.

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jayhawk83 2 years, 9 months ago

So where does one attain this hard-core, third party evidence you suggest? It seems to me you are relying on documents from a lawyer that was replaced by Marcano. Sure he didn't have alterior motives?

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 9 months ago

All I stated was my opinion. Just like you stated yours. I didn't state any facts, because I don't know any facts. I will defend the city (not curruption) due to the fact that I live in this city for 30 years and want to see it move forward, not sued! How am admitting to a hostile work enviroment? I don't work anywhere near Basehor!

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

“…How am [I] admitting to a hostile work environment?” Again, admitting to “…Sounds to me like…” and then proceeding to give detailed attacks on somebody’s alleged work performance that you claim you don’t know, or don’t have anything personal against, but admit to “hearing about,” is a perfect description for a hostile work environment. By your own admission, also, you state that the supervisor raising his voice is “being mean.”
“... I will defend the city (not corruption)…” That’s a good start, not to defend corruption. We certainly agree on that issue. Keep going forward and learn the facts for yourself, don’t rely on the gossip, rumors, and diversionary divide-and-conquer being used here.

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ProudOfOurCity 2 years, 9 months ago

Please LR (washington groupies) stop. You just keep making yourself look worse and worse. This city is full of a lot of intelligent citizens who are tired of listening to you try to educate all of us. You constantly are negative and yes we all know you think that Hill, Loughry, Martley and almost everyone else in city government is corrupt. Your old tactics of divide-and-conquer are finished. Give us all a break and shut up! Take a sabatical and maybe write a book of all of your ideas and thoughts and then read it to yourself. Everyone else is sick of listening to you.

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

basehordream(anonymous) says… March 21, 2012 at 11:01 a.m., http://www.basehorinfo.com/news/2012/mar/16/basehor-city-council-meeting-agenda-march-19/#c15457

you want disgruntled employees. just ask tom wiles why he left. he was harassed over and over and tried to complain. his time sheet was crumpled and tossed when walked out of the squad room by our now sergeant. they made fun of tom enough for him to find another job. jason slaughter was also upset with the basehor pd. he went to shawnee and subsequently to the lv sheriff's dept where he will not communicate with chief martly at all. just look at the fact that our chief dislikes the sheriff with a passion. our chief and lieutenant have run off many good employees and even the former chief horner in a power grab. i am sure that someone will be afraid that others may see this and try to have it removed. freedom of speech.

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

For Thinkaboutit >> Leavenworth Times, “Awards Presented at Ceremony,” by John Richmeier, Wed., May 13, 2009, page A-3: “Officer Cory was honored with a crime prevention citation as well as a life saving award.”

Took awhile to finally find this article. And the above post would have us believe that a person who earns those kinds of awards would want to be "babied."

And your divorce from reality is final, when?

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 9 months ago

Great he got an award years ago! What does that have to do with now. 1 good day of work doesn't mean you get whatever you want for the rest of your career. Or, get to sue everybody who raises their voice to you! If there was an assault and/or battery, why no charges?

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

Okay, next time you accomplish something, be sure to remind everybody to blow it off, since it doesn’t really mean anything to you or anybody else.

Remember, he wasn't "allowed" to file any assault charges, so the Notice of Claim says he went to the county sheriff to file the claim. Sorry you're having trouble keeping up.
He didn't earn the awards the same day, even though they were awarded on the same day, therefore, the caliber of person, mentally and physically, would not be the type of person you're trying to portray. Obviously you still haven't read anything to get the facts.

An example you’ve missed: In the Notice of Claim, among many others, one of the experiences is Officer Cory dealing with an identity theft where the victim's social security card was stolen and the thieves used it to steal money out of the victim's bank account, and then the bank tried to collect from the victim, so the victim called the Basehor PD. Clearly an act of identity theft as well as stealing money, both being crimes, right?

If you read the Claim, however, you learn that the Lt. demanded that the officer use the KSOR form to report a crime, but the Chief demanded using the CRF form, which is a citizen contact with no crime, for this same case. Instead of the 2 superiors duking it out between themselves, they each take it out on this officer working the case, demanding that he fill out both forms, and calling him names with much anger at using the so-called “wrong” form, with the Chief going as far as to actually say there was no crime involved at all, which had the net effect of the poor victim falling through the cracks!

In the end, the Lt. confirms that it IS an identity theft, and that it IS a crime, needing to be on the KSOR form that the officer started out with in the beginning, and then tells the officer, “…He [the Chief] doesn’t want to jack with these kind of cases…I do sh*t behind his [the Chief’s] back all the time…he [the Chief] don’t want me to investigate…I have taken cases and run with them behind his back, I have to…,” confirming once again that it was identity theft and really was a crime. When the officer verbally rejected this command by the Lt., the Lt. then laid the law down for the officer to do stuff behind the Chief’s back, without questions or talking about it, or the officer would be “punished.”

Nice set up—one of those no-win situations where you’re d if you do and d if you don’t. And this is what passes for “competence” and “professionalism?”

Typical bully set-up, to have it both ways in their favor--they can use it against you either way! Of course, we all know that if you’re part of the “good ‘ol boy network,” you never get in trouble anyway, and they make sure that there are no good options for the honest officer, or other city employee, to choose from as they get ready to pull the rug out from under them. Typical waste, fraud, and abuse scenario.

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becky 2 years, 9 months ago

why doesn't the acting city administrator marley give out the names of the other 4 remaining people that put in applications for city council members. Doesn't the people have the right to know , and give some in-put on the decision of who shall be put in to council not just the mayor, this is our town too. If the dead line is March 30 , then the next week in the paper shall have the names of the applications. It shall be open to the public to know. call city hall and ask.

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ProudOfOurCity 2 years, 9 months ago

Becky, Seriously? You have input..........................it is called voting during an election.

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

Great ideas, "Becky" and "ProudOfOurCity" -- have an election!!! Finally, something positive to work with!!

Mr. Mayor, their suggestions are perfect--it distances you from the new city council and suspicions! Since there's no admitted precedence to this situation, open it up to having anybody interested in filing as a candidate until a certain deadline, just as a regular election year, and then put all applicant names on the ballot and hold a "special election" to let the people of Basehor decide who the new city councilmembers will be.

This is about correcting a lot of wrongs, not about money, just like it is obvious the officer’s Claim is about correcting a lot of wrongs, not about money. We could have a fundraiser of some kind to help pay for it even.

Mr. Mayor, just think what a positive change this could be done on your watch that would affect the population growth for now and future generations to come!

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 9 months ago

Find it hard to believe another agency (LV county sheriff) wouldn't file assault charges if there was a crime. Or are you saying they are currupt as well? Are they in line for a law suit too? May as well sue everybody who don't give you everything you want! Isn't that how it works?

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

Huh? The Claim clearly says the City of Basehor Police Chief would not “allow” assault charges to be filed, and that’s why the officer went to the sheriff to file it. Nothing was said in the Claim about the sheriff not filing the charge, which he clearly did, or the Claim would’ve stated it, right?

The public doesn’t have any more documents about what the sheriff did, so that remains to be seen. However, the Chief is stated in the Claim as saying that “investigations” always side with what the “supervisor” says, which is really a message of, “I’ve got power over you, don’t mess with me,” so unless the sheriff has more evidence, it’s anybody’s guess of what happened with that until more documents surface.

Based on TV shows, the officer would’ve needed a video or reliable witness in order to be believed against 2 high-ranking officials, who obviously didn’t plan to be honest about it since they denied the officer to file a claim with the city, so we totally admire the officer having the guts to break the abuse-cycle in spite of the alleged or implied threats against him if he did report them. If the statute of limitations hasn’t run out on the other victims, it’d be nice if they contacted this officer’s lawyer, and then maybe they all could get the positive closure and morally-correct attention this abuse deserves! And then send the invoice to the abusers to pay back the City in order to send the message that abuse won’t be tolerated any more.

Nothing was said here about the sheriff being corrupt—you did all that in your above posting, one of those other lying tactics to throw the mud and hope it sticks. Scheeez, the only thing about your above comment that’s sane, and possibly factual, is that you admit the city’s PD is corrupt when YOU ask, “…are you saying they are corrupt as well?” Read what documents have been made available so you can use facts for your input instead of just blowing off steam that attempts to defends the un-defendable.

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 9 months ago

Other victims? And I do NOT think lv county sheriff or basehor pd is corrupt! Surely if there was assault or battery, charges would be made by now but please keep holding your breathe!

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, "other victims" since you haven't been reading any of those documents. Why do you keep adding the word "battery" when that's not listed in the Claim anywhere? Do you know something we don't?

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

Questions: How come the “boots” posting is gone and all the posts referencing to the “boots” posting are gone with it? Understand that “boots” could have the authority to remove her own posting, but how does she have the authority to remove somebody else’s posting? And why is it “jgreen” posts have been changed to “johninbasehor,” and how did they do it once the posting is already up? Has the online Basehor Sentinel got some new features we’re not aware of yet?

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

Great ideas, "Becky" and "ProudOfOurCity" -- have an election!!! Finally, something positive to work with!!

Mr. Mayor, their suggestions are perfect--it distances you from the new city council and suspicions! Since there's no admitted precedence to this situation, open it up to having anybody interested in filing as a candidate until a certain deadline, just as a regular election year, and then put all applicant names on the ballot and hold a "special election" to let the people of Basehor decide who the new city councilmembers will be.

This is about correcting a lot of wrongs, not about money, just like it is obvious the officer’s Claim is about correcting a lot of wrongs, not about money. We could have a fundraiser of some kind to help pay for it even.

Mr. Mayor, just think what a positive change this could be done on your watch that would affect the population growth for now and future generations to come!

(Shoot, if it was us, we'd even have the 2 new appointments put on the ballot, too--give the voice of the People to the whole thing, and cross "suspicions of appointing cronies" off the negative list right off the bat! It won't happen, but it's a great idea to add to the above ideas!)

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ProudOfOurCity 2 years, 9 months ago

LR you are as ignorant as Becky. There will be an election next April and then you will get to have your vote. I am quite sure you would like to have a special one now,,,,,,,,,,you could try once more to get some of your cronies in office. That didn't work when Mertz and Dysart were put out and you tried to overpower the meeting and put Box in. Thank God that the former Mayor did not let you get away with that!

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LR 2 years, 9 months ago

This diatribe of “them-against-us” mentality is going nowhere after 3 days when you guys keep rejecting the former legal files from 2010, rejecting the audit and other facts since 2010, and rejecting the idea of an open, honest, special election that was advocated by postings that merged from both sides. Instead it has been only ignoring and attacking the former legal files, insisting that all wrong-doing was declared non-existent, and that “tin foil hat” people are trying to do a power grab by asking to clean house with a special election.

Let’s focus on procedures instead of politics for a minute—bear with me:

1.) The former city attorney outlined the illegal actions that Hill and Loughry were doing clear back in 2010 (more than just the purchase of a coffee pot with meals on the city credit card and creating fraud to a legal contract—it seemed to be a pattern they did with a lot of other issues, kind of like “my way or the highway”), and same said former city attorney somehow knew he would not be able to file a complaint or get an appeal if needed, so he voluntarily resigned before being implicated

2.) The former HR clerk takes a work complaint to her superiors and is automatically fired, with no chance to file a complaint or get an appeal

3.) “basehordream” states that “lots of good people” have been run off and names 3 more (Wiles, Slaughter, and former Chief Horner), who also appeared not to be “allowed” to file a complaint or get an appeal, so we’re guessing that they left voluntarily

4.) The Notice of Claim for another officer, Cory, tries to complain to HR and Loughry, eventually fired for going to HR to ask for help, and is denied the legal right to file charges (assault) or get an appeal by both Loughry and Martley

5.) Ironically, as per the only public documents we’ve seen so far, Loughry and Hill are caught with their pants down, so to speak, blatantly open with their illegal actions, but we keep hearing that the current city attorney allegedly “cleared” them, that the audit allegedly “cleared” them, and that they allegedly never got to file a complaint or get an appeal, just like all the others that they denied having the process.

Okay, there is a pattern here. My master’s degree training in behavior disorders teaches to watch for the patterns. Now that the pattern is established, what is the City’s process for filing charges-complaints-and getting an appeal so that each and every employee, past-present-future, receives the same legal rights?

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jayhawk83 2 years, 9 months ago

I feel that your assessment has showcased a lot of bias. As much as you may think facts alone are present in what you are reading on that website, it is highly political in nature. Information is easily manipulated to favor one side or another. A claim does not necessarily give credit. There are many people who seek retribution; many who don't deserve it. And even more surprising is that through all this, you have not once felt the need to get Loughry, Hill, or Martley's sides of these interactions. Let the lawsuits play out. I think we will all be enlightened when both sides gather their information and present it, up to and including the court of law.

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ProudOfOurCity 2 years, 9 months ago

Master's degree training in behavior disorders? You have got to be kidding! You have way too much time on your hands. You might need therapy. Give it a rest. Look up the definition of narcissistic and bloviating and you will probably find a picture of yourself.

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 9 months ago

ProudOfourcity.. Couldn't agree with you more! LR sounds lije the most arrogant egotystical person ever. LR... Cory was fired! Thousands of people get fired! It happens! He wasn't cut out for the job! Yes he got two awards and I commend him and thank him for his service but he cleary had a problem with his superiors! Wether you like your boss or not, he is your boss! Get over it! Let it go!!! If I were to get fired I would wanna move on and not pay lawyers a ridiculous fee! Lifes to short to cry over the past!

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MzR 2 years, 9 months ago

Blood thirsty posters! It’s very telling that “thinkaboutit,” “proudofourcity,” and “jayhawk83,” plus a few others, sound like they could easily be employees or even maybe supervisors with the city. Have gone through all their posts again, and they give their opinions and expect us to take their word for it with nothing to back it up--no legal documents to prove their opinions are correct, but plenty of threats, insults, intimidation, and incendiary remarks made by these posters to bully the others on this forum who are trying to refer to what facts and legal documents are available.

Agree with LR, and minus the hateful-sounding jabs from the others, LR does have very simple concepts to consider.

Aside from everything else, two of the current situations are very similar, in that Mr. Loughry and the former police officer were denied an appeal process after being fired. Why?

It also appears they both may have been fired incorrectly by not following proper city procedures. Why?

The 3 above posters are so adamant that Loughry’s termination and appeal process was not followed correctly, yet are so quick to judge and insult the former police officer’s claim that’s asking for the same treatment. Why?

Agree with LR, it is ironic that Loughry apparently denied the former police officer’s request for an appeal process, yet he feels he was entitled to have the city council follow the regular process for his appeal. Why?

The 3 posters are okay with Loughry having a lawsuit about not getting an appeal, but they’re not okay with the former police officer trying to have the same legal rights. Why?

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 9 months ago

Police officers are not contracted! Mark was! Basehor broke marks contract! Cory from what I read had a serious problem with athority in my opinion. He questioned athority multiple times. Not acceptable. Seems like if he would have just let stuff go and listen to his SUPERIORS he may still have a job.

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MzR 2 years, 8 months ago

About both cases, what did you read and where did you get it? Where can I get this info about his problems with his superiors? If this type of info is in his personnel file, how do you have access to it? If it's not, can you give me a link or provide me with this negative info?

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 8 months ago

In his claim he mentions multiple incidents when he disagrees with supervisors and later angers them. I can assure you that I do not work for the city or even in the city of basehor.

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LR 2 years, 8 months ago

"serious problem with authorty...questioned authority multiple times...disagrees with supervisors and later angers them..."

Have to agree to disagree with you. Counted the incidents in the claim - officer chose to disobey an unlawful order almost 30 times (can provide the brief list upon request, or you can just read the Claim yourself and count them)

He, and all other law enforcement officers and military service personnel have the right, legally and morally, to disobey an unlawful order and not feel guilty about it.

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Thinkaboutit 2 years, 8 months ago

I'm done debating with you. You clearly think you are too smart for everone here and refuse to give it up. I do hope the claims are dismissed! I stand by my local police and always will. I have had multiple contacts with officer Cory while he was on duty and do not think he was a good officer.(and no he never wrote me a ticket or charged me with anything) I will not miss him as an officer. That's my opinion that's all! No facts, law, or "masters degree"... Just my opinion that will not change!

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StandforSomething 2 years, 8 months ago

Once Loughry's contract was approved by city council, an unlawful order was given to change the contract without their knowledge or approval. And even though there is no proof, word here on this forum is that the current city attorney cleared this unlawful order as being lawful.

"boots" said it herself, before asking for her posting to be removed, it was "okay" to have unloaded shotguns in the police cars because all she had to do was go the Chief or Lt. and get the key to the whatever-she-called the ammo cabinet because "he lives right here in town." All the Chief had to do was fake surprise that all the shotguns were unloaded, hand over the key to the officer who reported it, and get them re-loaded. How uncomplicated and stress-free is that?

The most outrageous one in the Claim is the Chief checking to see WHO was handling the Basehor victim's call about identity theft with his Social Security card and stolen money from his bank account (it does not say the officer went to the Chief), and the Chief having an abusive temper tantrum towards the officer while giving the unlawful order to put it on a non-crime form because his opinion is that it was not a crime that the Basehor victim called in about. Then the Lt. admits he has to go behind the Chief's back to investigate crimes all the time because the Chief doesn't want to deal with it, stating further that the county attorney is backed-up to 2008 with unsolved crimes.

If that is their attitude, the Chief gives an unlawful order to put a genuine crime onto a non-crime form to be filed away, threatening an officer for using the correct crime form in the first place, then the Lt. threatening the same officer for using the incorrect crime form, both no-win situations for all including the victim of the crime, what kind of town do we really have?

Forget about the "Loughry Tribe" vs. the "Tin Foil Hat Tribe." Those of us not in either tribe want bona fide change this time. Who are the actual puppet masters pulling the strings for the puppets in City Hall? They seem to know they can give unlawful orders and get away with it since that seems to be the standard way of getting rid of people down there, just like it was an unlawful order from somebody "higher up" to fire the HR clerk for handling a work complaint, as one more example.

Stand by your opinion, and those of us who are reality-based will stand by ours. In reference to the owner of the current Claim, we saw nothing wrong with the way Officer Cory did his job. There has to have been many other examples of unlawful orders in no-win situations between 2007 and 2010 that the Officer tried to appease for the Chief and Lt., et. al., long before the Officer got fed up and went to HR for help, which is where the Claim starts from, but when the unlawful orders affected either the public or the other officers, he obviously chose to take a stand and got H*** for doing it. Maybe it's you who needs to re--"think-about-it."

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LR 2 years, 8 months ago

Couldn't have said it better myself. Tries to help the Basehor victim, and loses his job over it. We had no problem with Officer Cory either, he was great.

Since that was back in 2010, did the Basehor victim ever get any help with his stolen card and stolen money from his bank account, or is his case still sitting on the county attorney's desk--maybe the "back log" of cases is because the Lt. is working on them behind the Chief's back while the Chief keeps putting them in the wrong, non-crime file?

And we're wanting to attract a grocery store and other businesses to Basehor with City Hall believing it is okay to break the law themselves and refusing to deal with crimes when Basehor residents call in for help??!! And Basehor has people who actually believe it's okay with all this?

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erik 2 years, 8 months ago

This truly cracks me up!!! You all haven't got a clue what you are talking about when it comes to the P.D.

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erik 2 years, 8 months ago

Well I would think I would from first hand experience

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LR 2 years, 7 months ago

LR(anonymous) says…

Here's a proposed plan on moving the city forward with professionalism--Getting an unbiased, objective, third-party Interim City Administrator for Basehor City--it's normal to do this, as one can see below:

http://www.pratttribune.com/news/x140... http://www.gardneredge.com/news/2011/... http://www.grainvalleypointe.com/2011... http://signal.baldwincity.com/news/20... http://gardnernews.com/our-view-press...

April 25, 2012 at 10:41 p.m.

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